The question of God


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Posted on 2009-12-04 16:08:23
@Saigon: Answer Chaosnature...
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saeigon

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Posted on 2009-12-04 15:36:33
Wizzy u dont know what u are talking about?,if ur lady was biologically dead how did she wake up?how come she's being now interviewed and talking normal.Do u even know the function of the brain? Dont u realise thts crazy? Do you know that ppl cant recover from brain death? pliz spare us all the crap.I willing to discuss science and serious stuff with u,but not this harry potter witchcraft thing. I know its ur attempt of running away from the real debate coz u havent adressed the issues that has been directed at u guy b4 and now.
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chaosnature

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Posted on 2009-12-04 15:06:53
what is God?
let start from here
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chaosnature

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Posted on 2009-12-04 15:06:13
1stly for you to claim if or not somthing exist you have to know that somthing
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Posted on 2009-12-04 15:04:42
o.k i see we have 2 groups here, believers and none believers, i am just joining up your chat session now and i will do me best to resolve this fight u guys are having
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Posted on 2009-12-04 14:45:20
for someone who has just been baptised and happy yo language is very sad!
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Posted on 2009-12-05 10:00:25
The greatest lie of our generation was to make people to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, he himself is God at the same time....Stupid.. and if you dont believe in him you are basically on the doors of hell...
words of a genius " Oppression is the holy law
In God I distrust
In time His monuments will fall
Like ashes to dust
Is war and greed the masters plan?
The bible's where it all began
Its propaganda sells despair
And spreads the virus everywhere

Corruption breeds the pedohile
Don't pray for the priest
Confession finds the lonely child
God preys on the weak
You think your soul can still be saved
I think you're fucking miles away
Scream out loud here's where you begin
Forgive me father for I have sinned

The target's Fucking Jesus Christ
I would've lead the sacrifice
And nailed him to the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious imbecility
I've made my choice. Six six six

Jesus is pain
Jesus is gore
Jesus is the blood
That's spilled in war
He's everything
He's all things dead
He's pulling on the trigger
Pointed at your head

Through fear you're sold into the fraud
Revelation revolution
I see through your Christ Illusion

The war on terror just drags along
My war with God is growing strong
His propaganda sells despair
And spreads the violence everywhere

Religion is hate
Religion is fear
Religion is war
Religion is rape
Religion's obscure
Religion's a whore

There is no fuckin' Jesus Christ
There never was a sacrifice
No man upon the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious inbecility
I've made my choice. 666 \m/
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Posted on 2009-12-05 09:59:52
saegon and ikwe u guys wanna be scientists but to be honest your science knowledge is primary level,because true scientists dont jump to conclusions they analise situations.u guys what u are doin is introduction no Body,no sammery and no content just a conclusion.if dats what science is about then i dont want no part of it.how can u just jump and say there is no God??
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Posted on 2009-12-05 09:34:09
You guys are chatting like market women, saeigon and ikwe take a deep breath and calm down, this is the 1st principles of allowing that thing you call God communicate with you, you guys are jumping from topics to topics, saeigon, you want to discuss science, i will do just that with you and i will outline the functions of the 2 hemispsheres of the brain for you and also link it's relationship to what you call God and what you call Lucifer, in the end i will prove to you both scientifically and metaphysically that there are subtle energies which you cannot currently see with your physical eyes but definitly exist and can be detected by some of both the physical human physiology and physical scientific gadgets we have today....but u both need to calm dowm 1st
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Posted on 2009-12-05 09:31:05
@ Saigon I meant to say I will not claim to know more than I do for argument's sake...
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Posted on 2009-12-05 09:21:43
@ Saigon many of my questions have not been answered by you. Honestly I think Ikwe is a better debator, you on the other hand you tend to shove things Science cannot explain under the carpet and label it 'crap'. You tend to ignore what you cannot explain... I answered yr questions as best as I could or rather know... maybe it's not what you wanted to hear but at least I was being honest and atleast I answered yr questions, wena on the other hand you won't attempt to answer you say it's carp and yet it's something I want you to explain as a scientist or whatever you are...
If I bring up NDEs I expect you participate because it's part of my way to prove to you the existence of God. And to show that there is super natural phenomena that even science cannot explain www.near-death.com. Don't tell me about a frozen woman....
If I talk about the small voice within I expect you to answer...
I will not run away from anything and I will not claim more than I do for argument's sake
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Posted on 2009-12-04 18:39:02
Waii bao di passersby,they come in put their feet in to test the waters only to find that it is shark infested! When they get stung,by the questions they run away back to the Jokes and Relationships section of edux. The one thing common amongst most religious ppl is their hate of reasoning and being asked to elaborate more on their claims of supernatural power,they hate that.Most of them run away the moment u start demanding evidence.Whats surprises me is that they like demanding it from others. We have been debating these guys for 170 posts and they have miserable failed to answer simple questions that support their religions. Look at Wizzy's question below asking me to prove that her God exists,so lame. I think its a waste of time debating them.I wonder if this reflects the level of religious reasoning ko Bots,at the moment coz i wanna start openely challenging the religious establishment ko Bots soon and start a freethinker society,i hope our new gorvi will allow this. If this reflects the level of reasoning and debate im gonna meet,im goin to eat those pastors alive in debates really.
To think Ballbreaker is a lecturer now ,makes me shiver down my spine,dilo di senyegile. Its shocking. How is he gonna argue his case in front of students?
Kana thts why in many universities u have to do philosophy and logic coarse when u persuing degree to teach u the art of argument and debate.This is important coz as academic you are gonna have to stand out there and defend ur ideas in academic conferences,in peer reviewed journals,in classrooms.Guys like Ballbreaker would really be eaten alive just by students.Wizzy....hmmnnnn ke mme let me be a gentleman.
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Posted on 2009-12-04 17:54:06
Supernatural being??How do you know this.... Please point to evidance nt a bible verse. Evidance available in nature n reality. Evidance every1 the world over can validate n verify!!!
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Posted on 2009-12-04 17:44:43
Wizzy nna I never wanted to entertain the NDEs cuz I knew it was gonna be a lot of subjective, individual brain dependent crap. The last article you copied n pasted suggested it was scientific by merely saying it is so. But there is no scientific langauge/ terms in it. I asked a lot of questions abt NDE land To scrutinize, none answered as usual???? End of story??? LOVE is like life, it is whatever meaning you want to give to it. There is no universal meaning of love or being loved. There is no universal meaning of life, it is all your choice. If you like it mysterious that is what u get. Wanna go through it angry choice is yours, wanna go through it romanticizing it like a fairy take. Le teng its still your choice. Your can not expect of science to make sense of individual preferences, nor to come up with a universal defintion. Even lover can agree on what they love is abt??? Is going??? Is ??? The difficulty here is people n thier perception of reality. There is no mystery there
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Posted on 2009-12-04 17:29:19
This is what I had suggested earlier, fence sitters like chaosnature, mrpipz le bitchee who just jump in the middle of the debate. Who have no clue that the christian camp has failed to answer the six questions at all. Then they wanna ask us those question. As I had said earlier you are wasting our time cuz we keep going around in circles. If you are goin to follow the debate please do so by starting where it began. Those who also claim evidance from us all we have none therrefore there is no god. Simple n plain
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Posted on 2009-12-04 17:27:53
Hey...People you have brains to think and time to read and write.... wow.... nna i believe there is God in heaven and the devil at hell. God is the creator of mankind and the universe at large...and Jesus is coming very soon. . go on with ur debate i ll be following you..
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Posted on 2009-12-04 17:26:05
@Saigon: What led you to believe in the non existence of God?
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Posted on 2009-12-04 16:44:25
I dont think chaosnature will be impressed with that answer. I neva claimed there is any being called God,so i cant answer for you what ur God is,re bolele its ur claim.
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Posted on 2009-12-04 16:27:59
@ Saigon he's trying to hear from both sides 'Mr Faster Learner'...
1stly for you to claim if or not somthing exist you have to know that somthing.
My answer is this: He is a super natural all knowing being who created the heavens and the earth...

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Posted on 2009-12-04 16:24:53

This is the same question that is included in the '6 Questions' that the religious camp have famously failed to answer,the questions are there. So u as the proponent of God Wizzy u have a question there to answer,dont run away.

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Posted on 2009-12-04 16:21:18

He's asking you!!Are u a slow learner tota. What is God he asks?

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Posted on 2009-12-06 13:07:54

Ikwe u need to improve on the cycle per second of your thoughts wavelenght lol

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Posted on 2009-12-06 12:18:15

Frequency: cycles per second. It has a resonating frequency. In English: it has resonating cycles per second. Cycles of what generated by what. Nubi are u still there baby?

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Posted on 2009-12-06 11:21:09

Correction there MR chaosnature all signal and communication in the brain uses elcetrochemical signals not purelly chemical or electric, huge differnce. Get your facts right 1st, if that is the level that of misinformed pumpous error prone logic. Welcom to edux, we gonna roast your ass. Nubianqueen make sure when u call me more than once, u get on your knees first, lotsa callin no answers given. I dnt scare easilly. Frequency is a measure of cycles per second i.e heartbeats n pulses. No lab needed there, what is the of cause the spirit's frequency. What is cycling per sec, that is detected in the lab using what. Proof n references.I Am gonna hold out on the answer until I get some myself. You threw in a lot of bull-shit behind your claims without answering a single question. spirit? I askd what is ir made of, potential n kinetic!!! How is the energy stored. Battries store electrical energy, which they produce from thier chemical contents. Turbines create electric energy (ability to do work) from a mechenical process. How is the energy stored n how do you know this provide proof n references. How is it measured please do nt talk of frequency as is its something amazing, or as if its advance science. Its the only pillar of your arguement, it pops up to much in your post, n I cant understand why? Throw in your little calculus, we will check your little equation, maths never sacred me, try somethin else. Even the most mundane things in nature exhibit sinusoidal properties yet there is Nothing complex or advanced in that now please answer my questions properlly. Do not selelect the easier parts from them. N brag abt its basic nature while you refrain from dealling with the effetivelly. Arrongance me and Saeigon we eat that for breakfast. Ask ballbreaker.

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Posted on 2009-12-06 10:55:59

nubianqueen
''u have 5 senses the one u use the most is your mouth, can i ask u a simple question do u ever dream?''

Mouth is not a sense.

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Posted on 2009-12-06 10:37:18

I would be lying if i said i understand what chaosnature just said below. Chaos,try presenting ur case in simple coherent form.Listen man,i can debate u in science all day,but u have to start talking...talking sense that is.


Wizzy
Winning? lol.Well.... i dont know what u call it when in a debate the other side admits i that they cant answer the questions.When they admit they dont have evidence for their claims of God, when they admit that they cant give objective proof to their claims that people can biologically die and wake up.

But maybe using expression like 'winning','crushing and annihilating the other side' though somehow true in this debate is not that constructive and is hurtful to the emotions of the other side. So i apologise for using that strong language.



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Posted on 2009-12-06 10:07:30

@ Saigon I think you bragged a bit too prematurely...

I think its a waste of time debating them.I wonder if this reflects the level of religious reasoning ko Bots,at the moment coz i wanna start openely challenging the religious establishment ko Bots soon and start a freethinker society,i hope our new gorvi will allow this. If this reflects the level of reasoning and debate im gonna meet,im goin to eat those pastors alive in debates really.

PS: Is this is a debate or search for the truth? Is it a matter of who's winning and who is not or the truth Mr. Saigon?

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Posted on 2009-12-06 08:41:03

ikwe! ikwe! ikwe! weee! how many times did i call u? be careful u see now God is coming for your butt.u talk too much without listening sometimes u shud take a break and listen dats how u learn.u have 5 senses the one u use the most is your mouth, can i ask u a simple question do u ever dream?i mean when u sleep do u dream and if so how do u explain your dreams scietifically seeing that u are so scientific.

now answer my question sit back and learn from the gurus of nature.dont worry we are not goin to run like others but when we are done with and saegon ull go to church and get baptised.

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Posted on 2009-12-06 07:52:54

"Read the posts from the beginig, do not jump in the middle of the debate n demand answers!!!"

Ikwe,
I have read some of your post and it does not state 25yrs of ur life research in there, all it states is an angry person confused and does'nt know how best to take out his stress, stumbled onto edumela chat forum by chance and decided to pick on innocent ppl.

Anyway the questions u ask are relating to a very basic physics, but i will try my best to temporary drop down to your level

"What is a spirit?"
spirit is a subtle energy that can and has been detected in the labouratory , it is a wave form , it resonate at specific frequencies depending on it's nature.
it is both kenetic and potencial energy it depends on what force is driving it and it can be affected by thought,
Thought is a wave form too, your though effect matter and it can and has also been measured on a scale, it also has it's specific resonating frequency. (do some more research)

"force what function does it have in nature?"
the force i speak of is the energy coupled with the thought that drives matter withing our time matrix
just as force is mass x acceleration, so also does it apply to this same force we speak of, i am not going to go deep into calculus just cos i want to prove logically to you my aquation is viable, if u r really serious u would go carry out your own research,
you are still at the very begining of science to be asking elementary question such as these, although it might be required to prove the question put forward, it is not the main factor in determining if that energy they call GOD exist.
"We hav gravitational, electric and frictional forces which are nt worshipped or praised"
We also have other forces such as antigravity (anti-matter), e.t.c, as for electrical forces the whole of your human physiology is made up of eletrical forces, your nuerons, your central nervouse system, your brain, activities of the so called chemical messagers e.t.c it;s a conjunction of network, now your home work is to go find out where and why these eletrical energies or vibration are generated in you.

"We had King411 who got here and told us abt quatum physics after a few hard hitting questions he disappeares"

I am sure he did not run like u will like to think, my guess would be he did not know how to come down to your level of science from a quantum platform to address your issues, as they are really too elementary for the topic at hand.

Happy Research

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Posted on 2009-12-06 06:46:52

I am tired of people like chaosnature.... Before u go on n demand answers we hav a few oustanding ourselves. Read the posts from the beginig, do not jump in the middle of the debate n demand answers!!! Or ask questions we have already delt with. What is a spirit, what is it made up of. What kind of energy? Kinetic, potential. How is it stored, energy is the measure of the ability to do work? What is the size of the magnitude of the one you speak of? How do you know that value? Has it been measured? If so provide proof!!!, force what function does it have in nature. We hav gravitational, electric and frictional forces which are nt worshipped or praised. Why shouls we think much of your force. We had King411 who got here and told us abt quatum physics after a few hard hitting questions he disappeares. Ballbreaker has failed miserably to answer too, read the older post and address issues bo ballbreaker hav failed to

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Posted on 2009-12-06 05:48:32

"i want objective evidence"
Saeigon,
I can Explain to you but 1st i have to know if u know or not that you are not only an objective being but also a spiritual being. i have to knw if you are one of the beings that completly ignore the spiritual or should i say the quantum part of selfs.
(Where the nerves end the soul begin is a common saying in metaphysics) The saying in bracket refares to the quantum part of your nature, which most do not believe in and has never really taken time out to research about...

If you are one of those who only stoped at physics and never really attempted crossing the boarders that physics could not cross, then my explanation would be a waste of my time.
so what are u an object or a spiritual being?

Ikwe,
what and where have you searched in the last 25yrs?

I am anciouse to hear your answer as i am very sure your spirit has not yet led or guilded you yet to the section of your life story that contain these information, maybe cos u r not ready for it, or maybe for other reason , not sure.
However, let me warn you that what they call GOD is not necessary as we term it, for me i better refare to it as energy, subtle energies, Forces, or even self, this allows me to relate to it either as a spiritualist or as a scientist.

So guys i am open for charllenges, let's now delv into the science world and proove or disproove this thing called God, that way we can move on to other topics and close this dicussion as there are other topics, believe me u there is just too much to uncover.

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Posted on 2009-12-06 05:11:16

NubianQueen after 25 years of search a conlcusion was reached then, you are the one jumpin to conclusion. You dnt even ask y, we say there is no god, you do nt even bother to ask where have we searched and how long we have searched. Who is the one jumping to conclusions.

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Posted on 2009-12-05 11:41:09

Nubianqueen Jump? how excatly are we jumping. If u have sometin to add to the debate plis come forward and do so. Wizzy The reason why its fruitless to discuss with u bout NDE is that u dont give any objective evidence about it. All u saying is that a woman dreamt of this and that.We can all claim to have seen stuff when dreaming,we can all open websites and claim to have seen dead ppl in our dreams.Its useless evidence u bringing. Now u claim a woman died and woke up to tell her tales bout encounter with NDE,i want u to explain to this forum using ur knowledge of physiology and anatomy how a person who is biologically dead can wake up from the death.Dont show me websites,i want u to explain to this forum how this is possible,i want objective evidence,dont tell me u have heard about it,i want u to explain to us urself how this unlikely process can take place. Then ill start talking to you. If u cant explain things its better to stop talking.

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Posted on 2009-12-05 10:51:47

The word or name Jesus was direved from the Hebrew interpretation Name Joshua which means to be safly delivered, we most always remeber that the bible scripture was re-interpreted from already esteblished scriptures and tablets or pyparus, when we bare this in mind then we can follow the right course in overstanding the bible texts, the bible text was not written as we are made to belive, rather it was copied, ...writen if we take the lies into considaration (by lie i mean the added texts),

Anyway from the very original scritptures that we laid down for the purpose of guildians after we have fallen from grace, the Jesus we speak of is an abstract behaviour which every one poseses, there is no living matter or soul with out "Jesus" (Light or Interligence) we all have the Christ (Interligence) in us , without it for example we would not have been able to conceive our selfs into this demension or any demension for that matter, the christ enery is the interligence that allows that phenomena to happen.

so sitting there waiting for jesus when u r unknowingly walking arround with it is kind of like a joke to me. he he

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Posted on 2009-12-05 10:24:54

@chaosnature

how's that?

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Posted on 2009-12-05 10:20:07

Stuxs if you know how to decode the bible u will find that u r the Jesus and that u nailed your self to the cross, basically u crusified your own self, lol

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Posted on 2009-12-06 21:00:34

Wizzy

I dont know what u specialise in careerwise Wizzy,but ill tell you that even if u aint into science you should be able to atleast get a picture of what the dude is talking about,i bet u confused like the rest gore wtf is this young nigga talkin bout! I can assure you gore u shouldnt blame urself this time for nt understanding coz what this kid wrote below doenst make sense at all,its a load of serious rubbish,its not meant to be understood. But if u think u get what he's saying maybe u can tell us. I read many times intensely what he wrote and i came to the conclusion that the kid is just playing with us.I dont have much problems understanding scientific texts,i work with it on daily basis,i read scientific journals almost daily,so i should as a rule be understanding what this young nigga is talking about!

''you do not work with jark! lol, stop lieing out
of ur stinky pie hole, no disrespect to Botswana, but i know u are in
Botswana and i know Botswana does not yet have the labouratory
equipments sufisticated enough to varify these sciences i speak of in
this forum, ''


This is what im talkin bout Wizzy. This kid is on hard drugs! Lab in Bots?negro u dont even know how to spell laboratory, and u wanna tell us are Einstein?sis. I know who u are.U are an impostor,a crook,a hoax.
You no scientist son. U cant fool me,o ngwana monna.Get the fck outta here.Din forbanna jævla idiot!!kordan kan en bli så tjukk i hodet! essess.

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Posted on 2009-12-06 20:01:30

"I know what u trying to do here,write a lot of nonsense that doesnt make sense"

Next time u don't understand somtin u ask , that how u learn and evolve

that's my final advice for you

there is no such thing as nonesence if u try hard enough u can make sence.

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Posted on 2009-12-06 19:57:39

saeigon,

I Asked you earlier on are you an objective Being or a spiritual being playing and objective role, u where too dumb to answer cos u r confused , u don't even know wat u r , and i am surppose to sit here and hold a conversation with you, lol , dumb ass, like i said , u talk crap i leave you and ur topic alone , u can die ignorant who cares, not that i am getting paid for educating your brick brain, the only reason i came back into this discusion is cos ikwe posted an interlectual post which required my attention,

it's a huge topic , it's not a topic u can cover in one post or in this manner , expercially if we have drunken, block brian headed ppl like u jumping in and out with out contributing any values to the dicusion., i am posting this for others to learn from not 4 u, u r not ready, u r still sleeping. Go Back In Your Hiding

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Posted on 2009-12-06 19:46:33

Seaigon,

"Some of us work with the stuff u babbling bout here on daily basis,dont even think u can intimidate us"

u most feel intimidated this is why u feel the need to voice out, but why tho, why r u intimidated. all i did was gave u a crash course in metaphysics, the content of my post can be varified and fully researched, when you have done so then u can come back to me with your concerns, until then shut your pie hole,be quiet and continue ur findings if at all u r trying.

Some of us work with the stuff u babbling bout here

you do not work with jark! lol, stop lieing out of ur stinky pie hole, no disrespect to Botswana, but i know u are in Botswana and i know Botswana does not yet have the labouratory equipments sufisticated enough to varify these sciences i speak of in this forum,

Take a trip to London get in touch with me and i will take you to Real Labs where we can carry out experiments.

That's if u r really serious, but i know u r not so fuck u, u r one of those that sip on beer every weekends and damge your own esoteric credibility and become miserable come Monday morning. Stop the braging, i want to see interlectual discusion not dumb drunken asses like urs, sht i don't even know y i bothered replying to your post, Mr Scientist wanna-be, lol

Punk ass loser!

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Posted on 2009-12-06 19:07:54

@Saigon are you serious? Nubianqueen is hitting on Ikwe?!?

@Saigon You see my earlier analysis a gore you deem everything you don't understand 'crap' is now becoming evident once again. Instead of addressing @chaosnature's points you are dismissing them.

 

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 18:07:21

@Nubianqueen
''ikwe! ikwe! ikwe! weee! how many times did i call u?''


''..am here but u still havent answerd my question.do u ever dream? ''

Is it just me who is thinking nubianqueen is trying to hit on Ikwe?

@Chaosnature
crap,crap and more crap u coming with.Just babbling more bullshit son.Not worth commenting on.
''The collective conciousness is what is refared to as God, every one and
every thing that exist and don't exist is what is refared to as God,''

Hehehe,man,i wont engage u in any conversation til u swear to stop coming up with this pile incoherent of bullshit.

''..it all stated from one mans idea to a group of men and then some
varification in labouratory and then put to test and finaly utilized,
these present reality is just one part of so many matrixes that exist,
choose a matrix and and exist in it, which is what we did...
''
Son stop doing drugs.
Like Ikwe said,if u trying to explain ur God,u should be able to do so in clear simple language,after all,its the poor uneducated ppl who u guys are trying to appeal to.Why cant u write ur argument in simple terms?
I know what u trying to do here,write a lot of nonsense that doesnt make sense,and mix it with a few scientific jargon that u hope we dont know,and u hope in the process u will confuse us enough into thinking maybe u are so smart that we cant get you? Wrong son. i know all these terms u throwing around i can assure u that this is the most serious load of bullshit since king411 came up with his quantum physics in this debate.He ran away when we exposed him.So its time for u to run Son. U are not dealing with intellectual underweights here i can assure u.Some of us work with the stuff u babbling bout here on daily basis,dont even think u can intimidate us! pituitary gland my ass.



 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 16:46:22

"you remind me of some one who bragged abt 2 engineering degrees but failed to clearify the god concept"

It will take way more than 2 engineering degrees to get to the bottom of this

"Forces are produce by certain factors of nature so is energy"

Ikwe,
To be honest with you this is one intelligent statement that pulled me back into this conversation.

Yes force and enegries emanates from somewhere, to discover where and how, we must pay attention to either how the human nature operates or how enegies behave, by this i mean examining for example, the way these so called chemical messangers in our biological science transport themselfs right from the glands through to the organs and then to the various cells that make up our bodies,

The energy signature and vibrational frequiencies (yes frequency again) emanated by these physical constructs are programming escreted from your thoughts, (this is why in the bible it states: in the begining there was word and the word was with Man), all existence was created by subtle energies, the physical manifestation we now see as the physical are only results and energy signatures of the programing that went before it,

You r not just a physical being, u r an entity vibrating with inherent interligence, you produce thoughts, you create your own reality,
when u sleep for example part of you, the subtle you.. go on a time travel, u leave your physical form behind, also when you trancend this 3rd density dimension (what most people refare to as Dieing) you leave your physical body behind ,

You produce thoughts, you are the God that is spoken of, your awareness and the tailoring of the nature of your awareness in this 3rd density material plane is what makes u play the role of man, these same awareness has it's own energy signature, different forms and level of awarenesses create vibrations, which results in the cycle per second you speak of,

As u grow more and more out of the tailored awareness (just like a carkoon in the butterfly case), and u start to resize your enclosure for the new paradigm you will begin to discover certian unknow realities that surrounds us,

The collective conciousness is what is refared to as God, every one and every thing that exist and don't exist is what is refared to as God, inside and arround these every thing and nothing, the energies and these frequencies when put together u you will find what ppl call Lucifer and God,
in man for example there exist an element of duality in every direction, God/Devil , BLack/white, Up/Down, Right Side Brainhemispere(Imagery)/Left Side Brainhemispere(Logical Reasoning), Feminine Gland(Pituity Gland)/Masculins Glands/Pineal Gland, Left Hand/Right Hand.... i can go on , it;s never ending, but all these are 3rd density reality signature put there for us to be analytical and be able to compare and judge realities,

When you begin to riase your vibration frequencies to a higher vibrational frequency and reality, like to 4th 5th and higher dimensional reality, u begin to leave these dual nature behind, and see things as a unit.
u see what i mean by writing a book to grasp the concept of God ?

I will invite u to join our chat service and there we can have confrence meeting with other like minds , and we all can learn from each other.
Log unto creativetechniquesonline.com, sign up, get an account and lets talk real science

The Physics was given to us to help raise us from the dead just like the Caleneder/Time was left behind for us to help us rise from the dead , we are suppose to leave these analytical paradigms and tools alone and progress unto bigger paradigm and using newer tools, not to dwell and get stuck with them.
Physics has reach it's prime, still useful but not past the 3rd dimention.

My elementary science tell me PHOTONS oscillated at certain frequencies when this is obrseved by the human eye generates colour right!!! As the spirit of god/humans oscilates at a certain frequecy. For light its Photons that oscillate, for god I want to know what oscillates

Light or photons are reflections of vibrations screened to us by impurities, the most important fact to focus on here is the value of this vibration. these vibrations are part and parcels of messages by the so called God.

God is not an object, the objective concept of God is only provided to us to display and explain the nature of God, interligence is observation , interligence is not an ability to memorize existing contents or data and pour them back out when in craving to be heard, interligence is the ability to observe the unusual and make sence out of it,this is why u see Federal Bureau of interligence and other secretive unit always observe, most interligence agancies have observatory, u do not need to be stinky rich to be priviledge to do the same so i suggest u satrt now if u have'nt already.

The concept of God is an indication of a manifestation of the frequency and vibration created by the collective conciousnes (and before u go onto discarning conciousness, conciouness is electrical in nature and it's vibrations can also be measured)

The frequencies that oscilate from "God" is the collective Frequencies from the collective conciouness, it's as simple as that.
The 1st principle of metaphysics is to utilize simplicity to it's maximum, it is this same simplicity that landed us with mobile phones, televisions e.t.c, these so called great phylosophers (Albert Einstein e.t.c) who put together your physics text book had an idea, it all stated from one mans idea to a group of men and then some varification in labouratory and then put to test and finaly utilized, these present reality is just one part of so many matrixes that exist, choose a matrix and and exist in it, which is what we did,

Did you know that when the human focus is projected unto a wave it becomes a particle, there is more to this but this is becoming a very long post so let me cut it short.


"after we destroyed his credibility"

Seagon,

I have no credibility that you know of, hence u r in no position to distroy what u do not know,
we are here to learn, not to cliam credit,
besides u r probably too broke to give credits to anyone, lol

If u have any valuable input u r welcome, if not go back into your hiding hole B4 i pick on u.

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 15:34:07

ikwe

am here but u still havent answerd my question.do u ever dream? if so how do u explain dat?

saegon

mouth is nt a sense yes but its an organ that harbors one of the senses which is taste.

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 14:51:14

"Chaosnature u are nt the 1st one to flex your little academic muscle or floss abt your academuc achievements"

This is truely no my intention, just like to get that out of the way
stay tunred for your answers.

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 14:43:22

Also before i go, i would like you to leave me in your opinion what you think the term God is to, cos i am not going to impose my belief and fact on you, so i will attempt to use ur belief to explain this unknown, if u know what i mean. Either way i am still going to give an interlligent answer to the questions possed. just be patient with me.

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 14:37:10

ikwe,

Now we are talking, i agree with you, and i will refrain from personal attacks for now as long as we stick to the level of the last 2 post you made, i am now impressed and now we can really dig into this matter and behave as intelligent beings rather than animals, i only did that to force you to bring your reasoning level to an acceptable level for this discusion,

i gat to do some house choirs after which i will reply to the below post. stay put:

and no hard feelings

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 14:30:50

This kid is just babbling real bullshit. He's new to edux,just opened an account few days ago,and he's too excited to just being able to post msg's. I'll bet my house that its probably Ballbreaker who's coming with a new name,after we destroyed his credibility.The incoherent language and the bullshit talk looks the same to me.

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 14:22:59

If god is so complex that explainin him to my brick mind is a tiring and exhaustin process considering my ignorance in science n my elementary reasoning. I feel sorry for grannies who dont know calculus. I am scared for the hobo on the street who has no clue abt advance science of FREQUENCIES. If one fails to explain to my 14 years old brain that still gets excited by the CERN LHC projects, what god is. But I must just fear wisdom just beacuae they are very educated or cuz they hav a few degrees in physics/engineering. I should refrain from asking questions, bcuz people are just to smart for me but they can even break it down. What is the use of being intellegent if your cant even explain god or advance knowledge to a 14 year old. I thought one is intellegent because one can solve small n big problems, I never knew intellegence was a count of professional articles of degrees. I always thought it was abt showing those who can t see the light. Shine the light on me educated one who writes advanced articles

 

 

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Posted on 2009-12-06 14:06:37

Chaosnature u are nt the 1st one to flex your little academic muscle or floss abt your academuc achievements we have seen ppl like that yet they hav failed to answer questions. Rediculing me n the personal attack does nt dent my confidence. Nor will it shield you if you fail to answer. We hav seen it all before, you remind me of some one who bragged abt 2 engineering degrees but failed to clearify the god concept. God is a spirit or a force according to you. Forces are produce by certain factors of nature so is energy. lets take colour as you have proposed it. My elementary science tell me PHOTONS oscillated at certain frequencies when this is obrseved by the human eye generates colour right!!! As the spirit of god/humans oscilates at a certain frequecy. For light its Photons that oscillate, for god I want to know what oscillates. These photons generate sun rays, the sun which is a chemical process that generates other forms of energies. What is the process that generate the god energy. How is it stored or transmitted. And yes please spoon feed my basic elementary mind. Electric force is generated by the movement of electrons. Gravity is generated by the earth spinning on its own axis. Friction is produce by the resistance to movement of all objects. What produces the god force? No personal attacks this time please try answering me. By the way are you also doing your master do you by any chance hav 2 degrees in engineering. Please point me to your professional articles I wanna check that out

 


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